Petition: What Computer users want changed in Windows 10 (Very Important)

  • 16 October 2015
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Petition: What Computer users want changed in Windows 10 (Very Important)
 
 

 To effectively implement and use Windows 10 in our homes and businesses, Microsoft must make changes to both the operating system and the policies the company put in place to support the new OS. Those changes fall into two categories:
 
1) Microsoft must give Windows 10 users more control over when updates are installed. We need the ability to delay or hide damaging updates that impact the computing experience, have undesirable side effects such as blue screens of death, or reduce the functionality to attached devices. Under the current system of mandated updates, we have been adversely impacted by forced driver and firmware updates plus other patches; we've wasted hours dealing with the unwanted side effects. As long-time Windows users, we understand the need to have quicker and more agile security updating. But this agility should not introduce additional risks to our systems. Windows 10 updates have already caused loss of system functionality, video and display issues, and other significant issues.
 
2) Microsoft should provide detailed information on what's in each update -- along with what system changes we should see with each cumulative-update release. We applaud the cumulative-update model, but the lack of documentation doesn't let us to perform the due diligence required for safely deploying and maintaining Windows 10 systems in our organizations.
 
To sign Petition: https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadella-microsoft-what-computer-users-want-changed-in-windows-10?recruiter=55468344&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
 
Daniel 😉

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Thanks for posting Daniel

And I will read all, and sign petition later when I get home, but I wonder what may be the likelihood that MS would both listen to, and potentially agree to implementing suggested changes. As the Scotsman said "I hae me doots". One can but ask, and I feel it's often overlooked by MS that the users are the customers, and do pay for the OS for which they have a license.  
 
I would have liked to add to the petition a request that Microsoft also should not seek to compel users to upgrade to W10, often in a questionable way, before they are fully accepting and agreeing to such an upgrade.  
 
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Dermot  
 
 
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I would have liked to add to the petition a request that Microsoft also should not seek to compel users to upgrade to W10, often in a questionable way, before they are fully accepting and agreeing to such an upgrade.  
 
 
 
I totally agree @!
 
I had hidden the MS update to get rid of the toolbar notifications a couple of weeks ago.
Arrived home last night to see it back. :@
 
Also, if you go into WIndows update it appears as though you can't do anything (although you can) until you install the W10 update.
 
Very nefarious, if you ask me.
 
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Thanks @ for posting. 🙂
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Thanks for posting Daniel

And I will read all, and sign petition later when I get home, but I wonder what may be the likelihood that MS would both listen to, and potentially agree to implementing suggested changes. As the Scotsman said "I hae me doots". One can but ask, and I feel it's often overlooked by MS that the users are the customers, and do pay for the OS for which they have a license.  
 
I would have liked to add to the petition a request that Microsoft also should not seek to compel users to upgrade to W10, often in a questionable way, before they are fully accepting and agreeing to such an upgrade.  
 
Regards, 
 
Dermot  
 
 
Well fellow Consumer Security MVP Susan Bradley put up the Petition and she has allot of contacts and influence with Microsoft.
 
Daniel 😉
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By Woody Leonhard
  "Without those changes, Windows 10 doesn't stand a chance in the corporate world, and it's severely hamstrung for individual users."   
 
  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2994120/microsoft-windows/petition-asks-microsoft-to-fix-two-glaring-shortfalls-in-windows-10.html
 
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By Woody Leonhard
  "Without those changes, Windows 10 doesn't stand a chance in the corporate world, and it's severely hamstrung for individual users."   
 
  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2994120/microsoft-windows/petition-asks-microsoft-to-fix-two-glaring-shortfalls-in-windows-10.html
 
That is so very true.  Remember, just 15 to 18 months ago how many businesses were still on WIndows XP?  Those same businesses that finally upgraded to Win 7 will NEVER go Windows 10 for these reasons.  I know my past employer will not.
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Have a peek at  @ Windows Secrets Lounge Forums at this thread. It is an available windows update show/hide tool called - Troubleshooting Pack Cabinet (.diagcab) Requires no install and can be executed whenever downloads are presented for re-start.Sounds like it may be very useful.
 
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-driver-update
 
 
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@Have a peek at  @ Windows Secrets Lounge Forums at this thread. It is an available windows update show/hide tool called - Troubleshooting Pack Cabinet (.diagcab) Requires no install and can be executed whenever downloads are presented for re-start.Sounds like it may be very useful.
 
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-driver-update
 
 
Interesting link!  It looks like the utility itself is published by Microsoft, not a third party, so I will probably load it up and give it a try at some point!
 
 
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I don't expect that this is the answer we are all looking for to solve the problem, but will give it a try when I see a Re-start required for some software update that I'm not interested in adding!
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Now why on earth would one not want to allow WIndows Update to update drivers...in all the world I would only dow driver updates one of two ways, either manually via the manufacturer's website and via WIndows Update. The ones through WU are solid as Microspft only gets them from reputable sites, i.e., the manufacturer's website rather than 3rd parties.
 
To me this sort of update is a complete no brainer and I am very glad that MS took the decision to do this and so give us an automated alternative to 3rd prty driver update software most of which is dodgy to say the least and the cause of misery to gulliable users who think or are led to believe that they are a magic bullet.
 
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?, Most likely Geek Squad did the install, but they did not go through the full 'activation'.  What you see is a standard Windows notification.  All you should have to do is go ahead and click it, and then enter they WIndows Key Code.  The Key Code is usually on a sticker on the outside of the computer, though for some laptops you might find it under the battery (Just remove the battery and you will see it).
 
It is pretty normal for Geek Squad to install the software, but leave final activation up to the customer.
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A driver is software that allows your computer to communicate with hardware or devices. Without drivers, the hardware you connect to your computer—for example, a video card or a printer—won't work properly,
 
Does this help?;)
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Hi Tamela
 
I am not sure why you would thinkthat as it is absoluetly not the case but in case I did do something to give yo that impression please accept my apologies for whatever it was...as it was not my intent.
 
And thanks to Sherry for stepping in with a reply. If you wish to learn more for a good source please take a look here...that should provide you with more than enough information, and possibily too much...;)
 
Regards, Baldrick
 
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? Thank you, Baldrick, for the additional information. I will enjoy grazing through that!--and No sir, you are lovely as always. Just making sure I had not caused irritation or offense by jumping in pretty ignorantly, lol !!
~Tamela
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@ Thank you so much, and it does help! Would driver updates ever cause a problem if Windows is synched in multiple devises (desk top, phone, tablet)? I realized I may have confused these synching issues with Windows upgrades (as opposed to updates--big difference, lol ). Thank you so much, Sherry, for taking your time to educate me a little more !
 
Tamela
Hi Tamela67,
 
No this shouldn't cause a problem with the Drivers if syncing with your devices, Syncing is different.
 
Please have a look here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about-sync-settings-on-windows-10-devices
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Hi Tamela,
 
Oh and you are very welcome! I am happy that we all were helpful in this thread! Thank you for the opportunity to be able to answer these questions for you...;).
 
 
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Actually, I am quite happy with Windows 10 as it is...strange perhaps...but I think that it grows on one and at present there is nothing that really needs changing.
 
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? Hello, Baldrick! I really like Windows 10 too!! I do think that updates should be optional though, or at the very least ask and give consumers the choice and voice in the matter. People know their own systems very well, and may appreciate the option to decline when they sense (or technologically know) that an update may cause problems. Well....Microsoft rocks, but maybe they don't need to assume taking the reigns quite so forthrightly, lol.
 
~Tamela
Thanks ?.
 
I'm going to try that out on my WIN 10 PC. Since Microsoft released this I don't know why they just don't add this feature to 10. 😠
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Now why on earth would one not want to allow WIndows Update to update drivers...
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I've had drivers that Windows provided that have screwed things up on more than one occasion. It installed a SATA driver that caused my SSD to run at SATA II instead of SATA III and a USB controller driver that caused my USB 3.0 backup drive to disappear from my system all together. I've even had them "update" drivers that actually rolled-back newer, better drivers that I installed from the manufaturer to older, outdated drivers. No thank you. I'll take care of my own drivers and get them from the manufacturer.
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I agree!! I will take care of my own drivers. Windows update has messed up my video frivers and many other drivers through the years. I now always uncheck any hardware related updates. I have had to go into system restore in the ol days when I didn't know any better!:D
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Hi BD
 
Was that under Win 10 or prior?  I suspect prior and thatis why in prior version the Windows Update route has always been as 'Optional' updates as opposed to the 'Important' updates that they are now flagged as.
 
In fact, I had a couple of 'Optional' driver updates under Windows 7 which I did not apply before the upgrade to Windows 10, and now under Windows 10 they are not visible...so clearly Windows 10 has decided that they are notreally required.
 
Personally Windows Update, on this point, has never let me down adn I will continue to put my faith in this mechanism, and would recomemnd that non tehcnical users do they same as manually downloadiong and installing drivers (if indeed they are required) is not as simple as it sounds.
 
Regards, Baldrick
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 Baldrick states"
 
Personally Windows Update, on this point, has never let me down adn I will continue to put my faith in this mechanism, and would recomemnd that non tehcnical users do they same as manually downloadiong and installing drivers (if indeed they are required) is not as simple as it sounds.
 
That's so true..it can be totally frustrating looking for a driver and that's where people get into trouble while looking online having to install a Driver program that they pay for out of desperation.
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Hello, Baldrick!
I have a feeling, I most likely pushed your patience with my inquiries. Throughout this conversation, I am beginning to understand a tad bit more about drivers and updates. What exactly drivers are, I do not know, however I am understanding that these are much deeper in complexity and for the very average user such as myself, it would be to Window's advantage and mine both, to just simply do it for me and not worry of it. I suppose if I ever run into troubles after an update (which I may not recognize, as it is done without notice ), I know where to come for guidance 🙂 !
 
I really thank everyone for allowing me to enjoy and partake of this discussion. Despite your possible irritation, you were kind, and I actually came away a little educated in a round about way. Thank you and everyone again, and have a lovely day :cathappy:
 ~Tamela

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