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I fully understand that Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome and Opera are the only browsers supported by Firefox. I understand that Edge is not. However if I enter Microsoftedge.exe and Microsoftedgecp.exe into the identity shield Application protection screen in Webroot, even though it makes Edge unusable I see the little gold padlock on the Webroot icon in the task manager, as I do with Firefox, Chrome and Opera. When I put the Vivaldi.exe into the identity protection screen I do not see the little gold padlock. I was under the impression that the gold padlock showed when the executable program was entered into the Webroot identity shield application screen and that program opened. Am I wrong?
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Same here and with CCleaner and I also do a search of my PC for "Vivaldi"@ wrote:
Hi Daniel
Did a thorough uninstall of Vivaldi using Revo...boy, does it leave a lot of debris behind. :@
Then reinstalled it base don what yo usuggested...and nothing. Left it for a while and still nothinig. Rebooted, tried Vivaldi again...and low & behold...a padlock. So why it needed a reboot I really do not know...but there you go.
So thanks for the tip...that is now sorted.
Regards, Baldrick
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You are right about Vivaldi uninstall leaving a lot of debris behind. I used CCleaner and then went in and deleted the leftover folders. I was able to backup my profile folder prior to uninstalling. If all is well do you think we can put this thread to bed although I did learn something which is good. Thanks to all who jumped in.
tmitch06905
tmitch06905
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Hi Daniel
Did a thorough uninstall of Vivaldi using Revo...boy, does it leave a lot of debris behind. :@
Then reinstalled it base don what yo usuggested...and nothing. Left it for a while and still nothinig. Rebooted, tried Vivaldi again...and low & behold...a padlock. So why it needed a reboot I really do not know...but there you go.
So thanks for the tip...that is now sorted.
Regards, Baldrick
Did a thorough uninstall of Vivaldi using Revo...boy, does it leave a lot of debris behind. :@
Then reinstalled it base don what yo usuggested...and nothing. Left it for a while and still nothinig. Rebooted, tried Vivaldi again...and low & behold...a padlock. So why it needed a reboot I really do not know...but there you go.
So thanks for the tip...that is now sorted.
Regards, Baldrick
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Now that this is done on my part, time to uninstall Vivaldi as I find it nothing special and don't need it.
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@bjm_
One learns something new every day. Thank you for that info. Just looked and found I did the same thing with Opera when I installed it so I moved it to c:program files also. Again WRSA automatically added it to the identity shield screen. We keep going this thread may never die (lol)
Tmitch06905
One learns something new every day. Thank you for that info. Just looked and found I did the same thing with Opera when I installed it so I moved it to c:program files also. Again WRSA automatically added it to the identity shield screen. We keep going this thread may never die (lol)
Tmitch06905
AppData is the default location, by which it installs just for the current user. You can click the Advanced button and choose to install for all users as well as change the location.
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Correct and very interesting what you said above!@ wrote:
@TripleHelix @Baldrick
Daniel,
Just want to say thank you for that post. I reinstalled Vivaldi to c:program files. My Vivaldi profile folder is still in AppData exactly where is should be. Thinking about it I feel better this way. When I installed it in c:program files WRSA automatically put it into identity shield with the correct path. When it was installed in AppData I had to put it into identity shield manually. Interesting.
Tmitch06905
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@TripleHelix @Baldrick
Daniel,
Just want to say thank you for that post. I reinstalled Vivaldi to c:program files. My Vivaldi profile folder is still in AppData exactly where is should be. Thinking about it I feel better this way. When I installed it in c:program files WRSA automatically put it into identity shield with the correct path. When it was installed in AppData I had to put it into identity shield manually. Interesting.
Tmitch06905
Daniel,
Just want to say thank you for that post. I reinstalled Vivaldi to c:program files. My Vivaldi profile folder is still in AppData exactly where is should be. Thinking about it I feel better this way. When I installed it in c:program files WRSA automatically put it into identity shield with the correct path. When it was installed in AppData I had to put it into identity shield manually. Interesting.
Tmitch06905
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Also to add: When you add Vivaldi to the ID Shield to do a simple test to see if the padlock shows!
Click anywhere in the open browser and the padlock should show and now click somewhere in the taskbar and the padlock will disappear and then click back within the browser and it will reappear which is normal because the protected app must have Focus so when you click in the taskbar it removes the protective Focus until you click within the browser to bring the secure Focus back to the browser or any other program you have added to the ID Shield! 😉
Click anywhere in the open browser and the padlock should show and now click somewhere in the taskbar and the padlock will disappear and then click back within the browser and it will reappear which is normal because the protected app must have Focus so when you click in the taskbar it removes the protective Focus until you click within the browser to bring the secure Focus back to the browser or any other program you have added to the ID Shield! 😉
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Hi Daniel
You make an excellent point which, having just done a review of exactly where every browser is installed to, would suggest that you are correct as the only one installed in appdata is indeed...Vivaldi.
So I will uninstall & reinstall elsewhere and see what transpires...I suspect that you will be proved correct. Will let you know.;)
Regards, Baldrick
You make an excellent point which, having just done a review of exactly where every browser is installed to, would suggest that you are correct as the only one installed in appdata is indeed...Vivaldi.
So I will uninstall & reinstall elsewhere and see what transpires...I suspect that you will be proved correct. Will let you know.;)
Regards, Baldrick
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TripleHelix,
Thank you for pointing out the issues with installing Vivaldi in the Appdata folder. I didn’t think of that when I installed it. I am going to back up my Vivaldi profile folder and uninstall/reinstall Vivaldi to my program files folder. Gosh, I love this forum.
Tmitch06905
Thank you for pointing out the issues with installing Vivaldi in the Appdata folder. I didn’t think of that when I installed it. I am going to back up my Vivaldi profile folder and uninstall/reinstall Vivaldi to my program files folder. Gosh, I love this forum.
Tmitch06905
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Hi Baldrick,
Glad to hear that you are going to persevere. I would be very interested in any conclusions that your find. Specifically is this statement true or false: Any .exe program whether browser or otherwise, supported by Webroot or not supported by Webroot when placed in the identity shield screen should produce a gold padlock when opening that file.
As to my specific instance I put the conclusion down to what I have read so many times in this forum, that a clean install of WRSA solves a world of issues. Maybe I’m wrong but please let me know.
Regards,
Tmitch06905
Glad to hear that you are going to persevere. I would be very interested in any conclusions that your find. Specifically is this statement true or false: Any .exe program whether browser or otherwise, supported by Webroot or not supported by Webroot when placed in the identity shield screen should produce a gold padlock when opening that file.
As to my specific instance I put the conclusion down to what I have read so many times in this forum, that a clean install of WRSA solves a world of issues. Maybe I’m wrong but please let me know.
Regards,
Tmitch06905
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Hi tmitch06905
Appreciate what you are saying but I think that the unsupported browser point may be material in the sense that Webroot will not have tested to the same depth as it does for the 'supported' browsers; be that Filtering Extensions and/or other aspects of WRSA including the Identity Shield.
In most cases the browsers used by many are a 'derivative' of the main supported browsers and therefore are more than likely to 'work', i.e., display the 'padlock'. Even Opera now is a 'derivative' browser as I believe that it used the Chromium engine.
Vivaldi is as far as I know the only serious mainstream contender that is doing its own thing...so to speak...and hence why results may be variable depending on one's system.
Still, I will persevere with Vivaldi and see if I can find out what the issue is in relation to it & the padlock.
Regards, Baldrick
Appreciate what you are saying but I think that the unsupported browser point may be material in the sense that Webroot will not have tested to the same depth as it does for the 'supported' browsers; be that Filtering Extensions and/or other aspects of WRSA including the Identity Shield.
In most cases the browsers used by many are a 'derivative' of the main supported browsers and therefore are more than likely to 'work', i.e., display the 'padlock'. Even Opera now is a 'derivative' browser as I believe that it used the Chromium engine.
Vivaldi is as far as I know the only serious mainstream contender that is doing its own thing...so to speak...and hence why results may be variable depending on one's system.
Still, I will persevere with Vivaldi and see if I can find out what the issue is in relation to it & the padlock.
Regards, Baldrick
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Hi Baldrick,
Sorry to hear that what worked for me did not work for you. I fail to see how an “unsupported browser” is an issue. As I stated previously it is my understanding that any .exe file entered in the identity shield screen in WSA should produce a gold padlock when opening that program. This can be demonstrated by entering EDGE, a unsupported browser. Doing so will produce a gold padlock when opening EDGE, however as we know when we do this one cannot type in the address field in Edge. We also know that this is a Microsoft issue. But the gold padlock shows. When I reinstalled WSA I did not keep any previous settings. After the reinstall my identity shield screen in WSA showed NO entries. Before the reinstallation of WSA there were several entries including Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Outlook. Perhaps that is your problem. Let me know.
Tmitch06905
Sorry to hear that what worked for me did not work for you. I fail to see how an “unsupported browser” is an issue. As I stated previously it is my understanding that any .exe file entered in the identity shield screen in WSA should produce a gold padlock when opening that program. This can be demonstrated by entering EDGE, a unsupported browser. Doing so will produce a gold padlock when opening EDGE, however as we know when we do this one cannot type in the address field in Edge. We also know that this is a Microsoft issue. But the gold padlock shows. When I reinstalled WSA I did not keep any previous settings. After the reinstall my identity shield screen in WSA showed NO entries. Before the reinstallation of WSA there were several entries including Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Outlook. Perhaps that is your problem. Let me know.
Tmitch06905
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Hi tmitch06905
Thanks for the information.
Unfortunately, from my perspective there is still something amiss...I have tried replicating what you have described...but to no avail. Despite a reinstall of both Vivaldi & WRSA, etc., I am still 'padlockless'...so either what you have described is a fluke or I have an issue somewhere in my system that is preventing something working in the same way as on yours. :(
I will have retry all of this again a few times to see if I can sort it out...but something suggests to me that perhaps there is something hit and miss when it comes to what are termed 'unsupporte' browsers...given what I stated about Iron showing the same 'issue'.
Regards, Baldrick
Thanks for the information.
Unfortunately, from my perspective there is still something amiss...I have tried replicating what you have described...but to no avail. Despite a reinstall of both Vivaldi & WRSA, etc., I am still 'padlockless'...so either what you have described is a fluke or I have an issue somewhere in my system that is preventing something working in the same way as on yours. :(
I will have retry all of this again a few times to see if I can sort it out...but something suggests to me that perhaps there is something hit and miss when it comes to what are termed 'unsupporte' browsers...given what I stated about Iron showing the same 'issue'.
Regards, Baldrick
Thank you for that useful information, @ and particularly @ .
Vivaldi is one of those browsers that I have been thinking on and off of trying when I find time (and I have been particularly encouraged by@ 's recent positive review of it), but one of the things that bothered me was that Identity Shield appears not to work properly alongside it, i.e. lack of padlock with worrying implication that Identity Shield is either not functioning properly or not functioning at all. Thank you, @ (and @ ), for showing us otherwise (and how to get there in the event of a hitch!) 😃
Vivaldi is one of those browsers that I have been thinking on and off of trying when I find time (and I have been particularly encouraged by
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SUCESS. I uninstalled/reinstalled Vivaldi. Installed to the same path as before. Still no gold padlock. I uninstalled/reinstalled WSA and added Vivaldi to the identity shield and sucess. I now have the gold padlock. Thanks to all who jumped in on this.
Appears default install path is AppDataLocalVivaldi.@ wrote:
I installed Vivaldi just to test for "padlock". I'm not experienced Vivaldi user. Maybe, I did something wrong.@ wrote:
I find it very interesting that BJM just installed Vivaldi and is installed to a different path than Baldrick and me and he sees the gold padlock. Just for the halibut I am going to back up my Vivaldi profile folder, completely uninstall/reinstall Vivaldi and see what happens.
So, appears I stumbled upon alternate install path.
My bad.
Starting over with Vivaldi install at default install path.
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C:UsersjmsAppDataLocalVivaldiApplicationvivaldi.exe
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Sounds like a plan...let me know what you find. ;)
I installed Vivaldi just to test for "padlock". I'm not experienced Vivaldi user. Maybe, I did something wrong.@ wrote:
I find it very interesting that BJM just installed Vivaldi and is installed to a different path than Baldrick and me and he sees the gold padlock. Just for the halibut I am going to back up my Vivaldi profile folder, completely uninstall/reinstall Vivaldi and see what happens.
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I find it very interesting that BJM just installed Vivaldi and is installed to a different path than Baldrick and me and he sees the gold padlock. Just for the halibut I am going to back up my Vivaldi profile folder, completely uninstall/reinstall Vivaldi and see what happens.
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Hi tmitch06905
No worries...I had noticed that a few times when using Vivaldi (I have a number of browsers which I use; Maxthon, Vivaldi, Iron, Edge, Chrome & Firefox, to name but a few)
In terms of Vivaldi...I like it but I would not say I would prefer it over Chrome or a Chromium derivative like Iron every time.
It has its strengths which includes some features that other browsers have, but then again Maxthon has features that Vivaldi does not...so in my book it is horses for courses, given that not everyone would necessarily be interested/appreciate or need/want to use all of the features you have specifically mentioned. Which is not to discount them, I hasten to add.
But everyone is looking for speed, probably more than anything else and so that tends to be my base line benchmark.
So in terms of that I find that on my system Vivaldi is up there with the best...but then again the latest offerings from Opera & Iron seem just as speedy if not more so. And both Chrome & Edge have improved/are improving, with only poor old Firefox still lagging behind...at present.
Personally, I have left my default browser as Edge...and tend to use it for the things that currently it does well, and use the others including Vivaldi for specific activities.
FInally, I should point out that it is not just Vivaldi that has this issue; Maxthon also is in a similar position in that if its .exe is set to 'Protect' then it will not launch. One has to set it to 'Allow' before it will launch, if registered under Identity Protection.
So, bottom line is, it is complicated.
Regards, Baldrick
No worries...I had noticed that a few times when using Vivaldi (I have a number of browsers which I use; Maxthon, Vivaldi, Iron, Edge, Chrome & Firefox, to name but a few)
In terms of Vivaldi...I like it but I would not say I would prefer it over Chrome or a Chromium derivative like Iron every time.
It has its strengths which includes some features that other browsers have, but then again Maxthon has features that Vivaldi does not...so in my book it is horses for courses, given that not everyone would necessarily be interested/appreciate or need/want to use all of the features you have specifically mentioned. Which is not to discount them, I hasten to add.
But everyone is looking for speed, probably more than anything else and so that tends to be my base line benchmark.
So in terms of that I find that on my system Vivaldi is up there with the best...but then again the latest offerings from Opera & Iron seem just as speedy if not more so. And both Chrome & Edge have improved/are improving, with only poor old Firefox still lagging behind...at present.
Personally, I have left my default browser as Edge...and tend to use it for the things that currently it does well, and use the others including Vivaldi for specific activities.
FInally, I should point out that it is not just Vivaldi that has this issue; Maxthon also is in a similar position in that if its .exe is set to 'Protect' then it will not launch. One has to set it to 'Allow' before it will launch, if registered under Identity Protection.
So, bottom line is, it is complicated.
Regards, Baldrick
I installed Vivaldi just to test for "padlock". I'm not experienced Vivaldi user. Maybe, I did something wrong. I added shortcut path and saw "padlock". Just tried to help.@ wrote:
BJM
You show a path to Vivaldi as C:UsersjmsAppDataLocalApplicationvivaldi.exe. The path on my machine is C:usersThomasMitchellAppDataLocalVivaldiApplicationVivaldi.exe.
There is no sub folder Application under the folder Local. Only a Vivaldi folder with a sub folder of Application where the Vivalde.exe file is located. It is this path that is in my Identity shield and shows no gold padlock. Why is your path different than mine and Baldricks? And why would it make a difference. I always thought that if a .exe file was in the identity shield and opened a gold padlock show. The fact that you show a gold padlock and Vivaldi has a different path than me or Baldrick has me very confused.
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BJM
You show a path to Vivaldi as C:UsersjmsAppDataLocalApplicationvivaldi.exe. The path on my machine is C:usersThomasMitchellAppDataLocalVivaldiApplicationVivaldi.exe.
There is no sub folder Application under the folder Local. Only a Vivaldi folder with a sub folder of Application where the Vivalde.exe file is located. It is this path that is in my Identity shield and shows no gold padlock. Why is your path different than mine and Baldricks? And why would it make a difference. I always thought that if a .exe file was in the identity shield and opened a gold padlock show. The fact that you show a gold padlock and Vivaldi has a different path than me or Baldrick has me very confused.
You show a path to Vivaldi as C:UsersjmsAppDataLocalApplicationvivaldi.exe. The path on my machine is C:usersThomasMitchellAppDataLocalVivaldiApplicationVivaldi.exe.
There is no sub folder Application under the folder Local. Only a Vivaldi folder with a sub folder of Application where the Vivalde.exe file is located. It is this path that is in my Identity shield and shows no gold padlock. Why is your path different than mine and Baldricks? And why would it make a difference. I always thought that if a .exe file was in the identity shield and opened a gold padlock show. The fact that you show a gold padlock and Vivaldi has a different path than me or Baldrick has me very confused.
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