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ttomm46
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Registered: ‎02-15-2012
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Second Anti Virus?

HI

I was wondering since WSA doesn't scan emails if it would be all right to add a second anti Virus,,I'm thinking Cryptlocker and other infected attachments

 

Tom

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pegas
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Re: Second Anti Virus?

It is your choice but you don't need to install another AV solution. All mail attachments and links are checked on fly by WSA when executed and if they're bad they will be blocked.

 

I use WSA alone with only Vista firewall enabled and never had malware issue.

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JHLittleDogTech
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Registered: ‎11-24-2013

Re: Second Anti Virus?

With that there really is no need for another a/v. In fact, the simplest way to protect you from getting something through an email is to know who it is from and call them before opening to confirm that they sent it.
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BlazeTen
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Registered: ‎11-05-2013

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Pegas is correct and it happens in a flash.  I have at times caught glimpses of the scanner in action in Chrome/Gmail at lower left of display.  Don't worry...be happy...you have the best of the best...trust it !

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RompinRaider
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Re: Second Anti Virus?

I'll drink to that! Especially on a cold day like this!

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TripleHelix
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Re: Second Anti Virus?

I have 10 AV's running at the same time. :smileyvery-happy: Can't do much else with my system I wonder why?

 

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Re: Second Anti Virus?

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You are right that Webroot doesn't scan email. However, it does scan and monitor any attachments you run. Webroot's approach to antivirus is probably the best in the world when it comes to ransomware threats like Cryptolocker thanks to its journaling technology. I'll dicuss the question in a broader context.

 

More detail:

It is true Webroot does not proactively scan the content of email. In fact it doesn't scan a lot of things traditional antivirus does - that's why it's so fast. In the case of not scanning email, Webroot's approach mostly only provides less protection in the case of an attacker leveraging an exploit against your email reader. Say someone discovers a way to make Outlook run a virus when you open their email. Webroot would never stop you from opening the email and reading it, but it would kick in once the virus is launched.

 

Other modern antivirus products scan the email for signs of something not right - maybe it notices the display code is really weird or it recognizes a known attack. The antivirus would then block the email. If it doesn't notice anything wrong the virus will be launched. This is the point where Webroot's protection starts, if we were using it instead.

 

The non-Webroot approach where emails are scanned gives a performance hit and adds a troubleshooting step when something in Outlook goes wrong. It does grant more protection on the front-end since it can stop the virus from even attempting to launch in the first place, which is the best protection of all when it works. Webroot's claim is that it's detection technology and other ways of protecting the system against harm that other products can't do make up for this. It's a valid point. However, there are some who see that first line of scanning as crucial and not something they can do without. Everyone's environment and requirements are different so that is something only they can decide for themselves.

 

For most users I would say that just Webroot SecureAnywhere is fine. I wouldn't want to own a system without it since it adds methods of protection nothing else has. But if you have the money, don't care about the performance hit and want an additional layer of protection you can run a second antivirus. There are concerns about antivirus products conflicting, but improvements in Windows have made me worry about that less. In fact, SecureAnywhere's technology was originally built to compliment an existing antivirus rather than outright replacing it. The product and tech has advanced significantly since then but its original philosophy of compatible design is largely intact.

 

Keep in mind that when users of Webroot talk about running multiple antivirus products it's not because they feel they have to. It's because of Webroot's design that its users are free to add additional protection as they see fit without any real drawback. This is not something so easily chosen when you're already running a traditional antivirus suite. It's not a question of replacing Webroot's technology because it isn't good, it's about adding on top of it because you can.

 

Personally, I constantly flirt with running another antivirus alongside WSA and have tried several. I go back and forth on it. However, I have multiple other layers of protection (firewall rules, multiple anti-exploit, anti-logger, sandboxing, virtualization, browser extensions, other custom hardening, etc) that make me safer than just doubling up on antivirus so it's not as much of a concern to me security-wise.

 

Disclaimer: Discussing or debating Webroot's approach to system protection and antivirus compared to the traditional megasuite quickly gets extremely complex and into gray areas. There are simplifications and omissions regarding both sides of the debate to limit length and the scope of the post. I could write pages and pages pursuing every facet of this question.

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BlazeTen
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Re: Second Anti Virus?

Very informative.  I am corrected.  Always enjoy your posts !

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Re: Second Anti Virus?


explanoit wrote:

"You are right that Webroot doesn't scan email. However, ..........."  (Quote massively shortened)


Explanoit, 

 

WOW what a great post!  (Bookmarked)



      

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Re: Second Anti Virus?

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@BlazeTen @DavidP1970 

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Thanks and you're welcome!

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